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    SCRIPT for Thrustmaster T.16000M FCS HOTAS with the TWCS Throttle.

    Hello,

    Some time ago, I bought the T.16000M with the TWCS Throttle.

    I connect it correctly on the computer and the PS4, as in the picture :
    http://cronusmax.com/forums/showthre...One-with-X-AIM
    => 2 : PS4 controller
    => 4 : T.16000M + TWCS Throttle

    I correctly configure the X-AIM :
    - Direct Input => DI Settings => T.16000M => OK => I configure the PS4 controller buttons with the T.16000M
    - Direct Input => DI Settings => TWCS Throttle => OK => I configure the PS4 controller buttons with the TWCS Throttle

    Everything is OK.
    I click on 'Enter Capture Mode' to switch to the PS4.

    But I can not play with both at the same time
    Either I can play with the T.16000M !
    Either I can play with the TXCS Throttle !

    Question :
    How do I play with both at the same time ?

    I think we should use a GPC script !
    Use the T16000M with the Cronus PRO and put a script in the "cronusmax plus" to make the throttle work !

    First, I thought about remapping :
    To convert the throttle buttons to the PS4 controller buttons.
    example :
    remap XB360_A -> PS4_R2;
    But how to know the name of the throttle buttons for the script ?

    Otherwise, I started to identify the throttle buttons :

    Attachment 5046 Attachment 5047

    Z : 100 0 -100
    X : 0 100 & 0 -100
    Y : 0 100 & 0 -100
    Slider : 0 200
    Rz : 0 100 & 0 -100
    POV : -1 | 0 & -1 | 4500 & -1 | 9000 & -1 | 13500 & -1 | 18000 | & -1 | 22500 & -1 | 27000 & -1 | 31500
    Button 1 to 14 : 0 | 100

    I don't intend to use all the buttons.

    If anyone could enlighten me on how to write the script !

    Thank you in advance for your answers

    Have a good day,
    Regards,
    Julian.

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    Re: [PS4 PRO] SCRIPT for Thrustmaster T.16000M FCS HOTAS

    Just un tick 'Ignore CM Controller inputs' in X-AIM Options.
    Look on the picture :


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    Re: [PS4 PRO] SCRIPT for Thrustmaster T.16000M FCS HOTAS

    Hello,

    Thank you for your reply.


    I untick "Ignore CM Controller Input" but it still does not work !

    Only one controller selected in "Direct Input" & "DI Settings" works, the second is ignored !
    Same thing when I reverse the controllers.

    And I also have a problem of disconnection / reconnection of the controller every 10 minutes.
    Before it was OK.

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    Re: [PS4 PRO] SCRIPT for Thrustmaster T.16000M FCS HOTAS

    The FCS stick and throttle are two separate USB devices each with their own USB cable. I believe that you need to use the Thrustmaster T.A.R.G.E.T. software to combine them so that the cronusmax X-aim plugin will see them as a single controller.

    Also, I believe that you should only use "Enter Capture Mode" if you are using keyboard and mouse as controls. If you do actually want to do that, I would wait until you get the stick and throttle working.

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    Re: [PS4 PRO] SCRIPT for Thrustmaster T.16000M FCS HOTAS

    Hello,

    Thank you for your reply.


    I downloaded and installed thrustmaster TARGET.
    And it does not change anything !
    On cronus PRO, I always see two controllers separate !

    Attachment 5052

    And the new update of cronus PRO (2.21 from 24-05-2018) does not change anything.

    "only use "Enter Capture Mode" if you are using keyboard and mouse as controls"
    Yes, you're right.
    I used to click on it because I play controller Xbox 360 and mouse.
    Last edited by jules58000; 3rd June 18 at 11:58.

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    Re: [PS4 PRO] SCRIPT for Thrustmaster T.16000M FCS HOTAS

    Here is a thread that may help: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=65387

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    Re: [PS4 PRO] SCRIPT for Thrustmaster T.16000M FCS HOTAS

    Hello,

    Thank you for your reply.


    The link number 1 didn't satisfy me, but the link number 2 is very good !
    I installed UCR on my computer, and configured a few joystick and throttle buttons.
    But I don't know if UCR is compatible with cronus PRO !
    If yes, how ?
    I asked the question on their forum (https://autohotkey.com), but they have not answered yet.
    Last edited by jules58000; 5th June 18 at 09:13.

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    Re: [PS4 PRO] SCRIPT for Thrustmaster T.16000M FCS HOTAS

    Someone on the autohotkey forum replied :

    "The cronusmax does not come with an API, and so it is not possible to control a cronusmax from a PC, like it is possible with a Titan.

    This will never change unless the manufacturer release an API.
    I know of no other similar devices to the Titan that have an API
    To clarify. The Titan allows you to connect it to the PC and to a console *simultaneously*, and you can load a .DLL file on the PC and use the methods inside it to control the Titan whilst it is connected to the console. This is totally different to GPC scripts, which run on the device itself.
    AFAIK The cronusmax simply does not have an API mode."

    => The cronusmax is NOT compatible with UCR !

    Last edited by jules58000; 6th June 18 at 15:45.

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    Re: [PS4 PRO] SCRIPT for Thrustmaster T.16000M FCS HOTAS

    The moderator on the autohotkey forum said :

    "As I have said, UCR does not drive the Titan via X-AIM, it drives it via the GCDAPI API.
    By using the API, we can use ANY number of controllers of ANY kind , or even things which are not "controllers" to drive the Titan.
    I can control the titan with my eyes and speaking commands if I want to !"


    "Ah, OK, I did a little googliing around and it seems there is an API for the Cronus
    http://cronusmax.com/forums/showthre...usMAX-Plus-API
    However, I am no longer actively developing this version of UCR, I am re-writing UCR in C#, and seeing as the cronus library is C#, it would make sense to implement it there.

    I may have someone who can loan me one though, or we could maybe find someone who is willing to integrate the cronus with UCR.
    I made a post on the thread I linked, we will see if anyone is interested. I am just waiting for it to be approved by a moderator."


    It was to know what the moderators of this forum could do !
    Thank you in advance for your answers.

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    Re: [PS4 PRO] SCRIPT for Thrustmaster T.16000M FCS HOTAS

    At least one user on the forums has managed to successfully use the FCS HOTAS with cronusmax. I suggest that you reply to this cronusmax thread and ask him for specifics on how he did it: http://cronusmax.com/forums/showthre...irect-Input(s). The FCS HOTAS and Warthog HOTAS are also on the compatible controller list.

    Ultimately, you are going to need to run some program - TARGET, UCR, or other and use it to combine the stick and throttle into a single virtual device.

    You will then run X-aim and select the virtual device from the direct input pulldown.

    By the way, I am not a cronusmax employee; I am just a cronusmax user trying to help. I have done a lot of work with flight sticks on cronusmax and I can really be a lot of help with writing scripts for them. My flight sticks are Saitek and Logitech and have single USB interfaces, so I don't have any personal experience with your particular issue and I don't have a Thrustmaster HOTAS that I can try myself.

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    Re: [PS4 PRO] SCRIPT for Thrustmaster T.16000M FCS HOTAS

    Here is the another post of the subject from the same user. It looks like he may have used vJoy to combine the stick and throttle:

    Re: List of Compatible Controllers *Regularly Updated*

    [PS4] Thrustmaster T1600m FCS.
    I don't know if anyone else has tested or even has it. I do, and it works great with the cronusmax+.

    However, there are somethings you need to know before getting it to work, so please continue reading:

    The Thrustmaster T1600m FCS, is a joystick/throttle bundle, can sometimes be found even with rudder pedals.
    Since it use 2 USB ports on a PC, and X-Aim can only use one or the other, so an extra program or utility is needed.

    You can use either vJoy, UCR, UJR (outdated) or Joystick Gremlin. Cronusmax does not have any support for any of those.
    I use UCR, since you can actually turn an axis into button outputs, and vice versa. Can even "pulse" a selected button (rapid fire?) with a toggle switch. The layout I have is a 32 button layout, and most axis and buttons can be used.

    And no, I have not tested it as yet with Elite: Dangerous. I will soon. As I want a full head movement, which can be achieved via the extra mini stick on the throttle.
    As fast as I have, I will come back, and show how I managed to set it up with the game. I have currently only tested in Battlefront 2, where you fly either an X-Wing or a TIE Fighter.
    The response is amazing, I had the HOTAS earlier, but this is so much better, all thanks to magnets instead of using a potentiometer.

    It's the throttle that you have to play around until you get what you are comfortable with. I use the AxisToButtons instead of AxisToAxis.
    In X-Aim, it reads an vJoy config. Making both throttle and stick device #1, instead of two separate ones.


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    Re: [PS4 PRO] SCRIPT for Thrustmaster T.16000M FCS HOTAS

    Hello,

    Thank you for your very interesting answer !

    Quote Originally Posted by jcarley2112 View Post
    Ultimately, you are going to need to run some program - TARGET, UCR, or other and use it to combine the stick and throttle into a single virtual device.

    You will then run X-aim and select the virtual device from the direct input pulldown.
    I downloaded and installed the TARGET and UCR software.
    I did not really understand the configuration of TARGET, but I understood better UCR !
    But when I used the X-AIM software, I did not find a virtual controller combining both (joystick and throttle).

    But your message pushes me to insist on TARGET and UCR again !

    I will read carefully the link you gave me !
    Thank you very much !

    Quote Originally Posted by jcarley2112 View Post
    Here is the another post of the subject from the same user. It looks like he may have used vJoy to combine the stick and throttle
    I had also found the software vJoy but I had not lent care.
    Last edited by jules58000; 7th June 18 at 09:19.

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    TARGET software see the joystick but don't see the throttle !
    vJoy software don't see the joytick and the throttle !
    UCR software see the joystick and the throttle but is not compatible with cronus !

    Edit :

    When I go to the site thrustmaster, it is noted that the TARGET software is compatible with the T.16000M. No T.16000M FCS HOTAS.
    So the software does not take into account the throttle !

    Good news : X-AIM supports vJoy !!!

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    Last edited by jules58000; 8th June 18 at 05:20.

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    Re: [PS4 PRO] SCRIPT for Thrustmaster T.16000M FCS HOTAS

    Are you using the latest Thrustmaster FCS HOTAS driver? The driver is a separate download from the TARGET software.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Nevermind, I did not read your latest post and see that Vjoy is working for you.

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    Re: [PS4 PRO] SCRIPT for Thrustmaster T.16000M FCS HOTAS

    Driver downloaded on : https://support.thrustmaster.com/fr/cat-joysticks-fr/
    T.16000M FCS => Package 2017_FFD_1 (1.0.2017.0)
    TWCS Throttle => Package 2017_TFHT_1 + Firmware (1.0.2017.0)

    TARGET => 2.0.10.0
    vJoy => 2.1.8.38
    UCR => 1.1.24.0

    Driver T.16000 FCS HOTAS don't exist !
    Last edited by jules58000; 8th June 18 at 11:40.

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    Re: [PS4 PRO] SCRIPT for Thrustmaster T.16000M FCS HOTAS

    .......................EU - RE - KAAAAAA

    ....................................... IT'S WORKS


    1] You must download vJoy & UJR

    ...............vJoy driver : https://sourceforge.net/projects/vjo...atest/download
    ...............UJR driver : http://evilc.com/files/ahk/vjoy/ujr.zip

    ...............UJR allows to configure the axes and the buttons of the joystick and the throttle
    ...............vJoy is compatible with X-AIM and allows to make the link between UJR and Cronusmax

    2] Plug T16000M FCS + TWC throttle on PC (2 USB port differents)

    ............................Photo 1.......................Photo 2........................Photo 3
    ...............

    3] Open Configure vJoy

    ........# Windows 1 :

    ...............- Untick : Enable Effects
    ...............- Number of Buttons : 32
    ...............- Add Device

    ........# Windows 2 :

    ...............- Untick : Enable Effects
    ...............- Number of Buttons : 32
    ...............- Add Device

    4] Close Configure vJoy

    5] Open vJoy Monitor

    ...............vJoy Monitor lets you see the compatibility of buttons and axes between UJR and vJoy

    6] Open UJR

    ...............Axes 1, Buttons 1 and buttons 2 are to use !
    ...............Axes 2 must be ignored !
    ...............Tick on : Debug Mode

    ........# Verification :

    ...............- vJoy Stick ID 1 must indicate : Connected
    ...............- vJoy Stick ID 2 must indicate : Connected
    ...............- Return to vJoy Stick ID 1

    ........# Configurations Axes 1 :

    ...............- Clik on : Auto Configure Stick ID 1
    ...............- Then move the throttle or the joystick
    ...............- If the "state" cursor moves, it's him !
    ...............- Same for Auto Configure Stick ID 2

    ...............For me :
    ...............1 corresponds to Throttle (Physical Stick ID 1)
    ...............2 corresponds to Joystick (Physical Stick ID 2)

    ...............FINAL CONFIGURATIONS AXES 1 :

    ...............

    ...............X : Stick ID 2 | Axis 1 => X joystick
    ...............Y : Stick ID 2 | Axis 2 => Y joystick
    ...............Z : Stick ID 1 | Axis 3 => Z throttle (photo 2 : Z)
    ...............Tick on : Invert

    ...............RX : Stick ID 2 | Axis 4 => rotation joystick
    ...............RY : Stick ID 1 | Axis 1 => X throttle (photo 1 : X)
    ...............RZ : Stick ID 1 | Axis 4 => RZ throttle (photo 1 : RZ)

    ...............Slider (photo 1) don't works with UJR !!!
    ...............The button 23 (photo 3) is not activated ! But can replace the slider 0 or 1 (SL0 or SL1).
    ...............=> SL0 : Stick ID 2 | Axis 3 => Z joystick (photo 3 : 23)
    ...............=> Tick on : Invert

    ...............I have not tested the axes RX, RY, RZ in a game, it will be may be necessary to redefine the axes on throttle and joystick !!!
    ...............I chose 5% of deadzone, that can be more !
    ...............To adjust sensation of the grip in hand of the 6 axes, you can decrease sensitivity.

    ........# Configurations Buttons 1 and Buttons 2 :

    ...............- Clik on : Auto Configure Stick ID 1
    ...............- Then press a button on the controller
    ...............- State ''off" becomes State ''on"

    ...............FINAL CONFIGURATIONS BUTTONS 1 :

    ...............

    ...............01 : Stick ID 1 | Button POV U => photo 2 : POV UP
    ...............02 : Stick ID 1 | Button POV R => photo 2 : POV RIGHT
    ...............03 : Stick ID 1 | Button POV D => photo 2 : POV DOWN
    ...............04 : Stick ID 1 | Button POV L => photo 2 : POV LEFT
    ...............05 : Stick ID 1 | Button 01 => photo 2 : 01
    ...............06 : Stick ID 1 | Button 02 => photo 1 : 02
    ...............07 : Stick ID 1 | Button 03 => photo 1 : 03
    ...............08 : Stick ID 1 | Button 04 => photo 1 : 04
    ...............09 : Stick ID 1 | Button 05 => photo 1 : 05
    ...............10 : Stick ID 1 | Button 06 => photo 1 : 06
    ...............11 : Stick ID 1 | Button 07 => photo 2 : 07
    ...............12 : Stick ID 1 | Button 08 => photo 2 : 08
    ...............13 : Stick ID 1 | Button 09 => photo 2 : 09
    ...............14 : Stick ID 1 | Button 10 => photo 2 : 10
    ...............15 : Stick ID 1 | Button 11 => photo 2 : 11
    ...............16 : Stick ID 1 | Button 12 => photo 2 : 12

    ...............All buttons and POV works with UJR !!!
    ...............You have the choice of buttons, you can change !

    ...............FINAL CONFIGURATIONS BUTTONS 2 :

    ...............

    ...............17 : Stick ID 2 | Button POV U => photo 3 : POV UP
    ...............18 : Stick ID 2 | Button POV R => photo 3 : POV RIGHT
    ...............19 : Stick ID 2 | Button POV D => photo 3 : POV DOWN
    ...............20 : Stick ID 2 | Button POV L => photo 3 : POV LEFT
    ...............21 : Stick ID 2 | Button 01 => photo 3 : 15
    ...............22 : Stick ID 2 | Button 02 => photo 3 : 16
    ...............23 : Stick ID 2 | Button 03 => photo 3 : 17
    ...............24 : Stick ID 2 | Button 04 => photo 3 : 18
    ...............25 : Stick ID 2 | Button 08 => photo 3 : 19
    ...............26 : Stick ID 2 | Button 09 => photo 3 : between 19 & 20
    ...............27 : Stick ID 2 | Button 10 => photo 3 : 20
    ...............28 : Stick ID 2 | Button 14 => photo 3 : 21
    ...............29 : Stick ID 2 | Button 15 => photo 3 : between 21 & 22
    ...............30 : Stick ID 2 | Button 16 => photo 3 : 22
    ...............31 : Nothing | Nothing
    ...............32 : Nothing | Nothing

    ...............All buttons and POV works with UJR !!!
    ...............You have the choice of buttons, you can change !
    ...............In place of 'nothing', you can add 2 missing buttons of throttle

    7] Close vJoy Monitor but DON'T CLOSE UJR !!!

    8] Connect the cronusmax to the PS4

    9] Connect the cronusmax to the PC via PC Prog

    10] Open Cronus PRO & X-AIM

    ...............Plugings => X-AIM
    ...............Direct Input => DI Settings

    ...............There are two vJoys : one works while the other does not work !
    ...............This corresponds to vJoy Stick ID 1 (configure) and 2 (no configure)

    ...............

    ...............Test the first and the second.
    ...............If the values change by moving the joystick and the throttle, then it's him !!!

    ...............The 6 axes and the 32 buttons work.
    ...............But POVs are counted in the buttons !

    11] Remap

    ........# For a button :

    ...............- Right click on the PS4 controller button
    ...............- Use Direct Input Catch
    ...............- Press a joystick or throttle button

    ........# For a axis :

    ...............- Right click on the PS4 controller button
    ...............- Use Direct Input List
    ...............- Clik on axis at your choice

    12] Enjoy

    13] The next time

    ...............- Open UJR - FIRST - (the settings are saved)
    ...............- Open X-AIM (identic)



    ...............This method must surely work with other joystick and throttle !

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    Re: [PS4 PRO] SCRIPT for Thrustmaster T.16000M FCS HOTAS

    I want to thank evilC from the autohotkey forum for helping me by indicating the 2 softwares.
    https://autohotkey.com/boards/index.php

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    I only just saw this.

    Nice work

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